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raffaellasworld ([personal profile] raffaellasworld) wrote2010-01-21 10:59 am

Dreaming of Venice and research

Cross posted to my Dreamwidth account, as I plan to use that especially for all my Venice related research.

So, I've still got visions of attending that April Renaissance Society of America conference, and the mancreature has been saying things like "well, would you regret not going", and "if you can do it...", which makes it hard to be responsible and tell myself I shouldn't put another trip on my credit card while I'm not yet done paying off the last one.

So, I just happened to stumble across some flight prices online and they seem to range from $1198 to $1441, round trip. Strangely enough the cheeper ones seem to be the flights with less layovers, but they are in Germany and maybe they assume no one want to fly through Frankfurt? The hotel options seem to vary widely and it's hard to tell from their little blurb which ones might be a good choice. Prices for Air & hotel packages range from $1186 (yes, actually cheeper than the lowest price for flight alone!) to $1656. If price was the absolute bottom line the package for $1186 looks astoundingly good as it's actually below the lowest price for flights alone.
$1186 Piave Hotel 3.2 of 5 rating
$1193 Hotel Ariston 3.3 of 5 rating
$1204 Hotel Alla Salute 301 of 5 ratings
If this actually looks like it may possibly happen I'll need to verify where the lectures I want to attend will be located and if we want to have that weigh on where we stay (if I can talk a friend into going with me.

Some of the classes I'm particularly interested in:
CAROLINE CASTIGLIONE, BROWN UNIVERSITY
Unauthorized Editions: Women Writing on the Household in Late Renaissance Rome Few women authored printed works on the management of households and the raising of children in Renaissance Italy. Although women of all classes were heavily involved in such labor, the authorities in print on such subjects were largely male. This paper will examine manuscript writings by Roman women who considered the travails of family life from a woman’s point of view. While such writings remained unpublished and were largely epistolary in form, they suggest that female reticence on such subjects in print belied the loquacity of female interlocutors on matters medical, familial, social, and psychological. This paper will investigate the extent to which women used their writing on such themes to “talk back” to male authorities about contested issues. How did these unpublished authors resolve the concomitant dilemma created by their claims to authority and knowledge, since even the best run households were beset by illnesses and childhood death?

Università Ca’ Foscari - San Basilio - Aula 2C
REWRITING CONVENTIONS IN LATE RENAISSANCE ITALY
Organizer: GIOVANNA BENADUSI, UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA
Chair: JOHN JEFFRIES MARTIN, DUKE UNIVERSITY
GIOVANNA BENADUSI, UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA
The Law and the Fabric of Everyday Life in Tuscany
This paper addresses the significance of notarial documents, in particular last wills, for women in late Renaissance Italy. Recent scholarship has suggested that in their last wills upper-class women devised different forms of agency in order to circumvent the structures of patriarchy. But many of the women who drafted last wills had no wealth to speak of, yet they dictated last wills in great numbers. By shifting the focus from patrician women to ordinary women, my paper questions the conventional assumption that all last wills were naturally embedded in the same legal and familial logic of upper-class families. A close reading of the relationships that crystallized between notaries and their lower-class clients demonstrates how last wills became an accessible public outlet where notaries combined the prescribed law of statutes with the concerns and needs of their clients, who used the destiny of their possessions to weave together the law and their everyday life.

Archivio di Stato - Aula della Scuola di Archivistica, Paleografia e Diplomatica
THE MEDITERRANEAN AND THE PAST II
Organizer: DAVID KARMON, COLLEGE OF THE HOLY CROSS Chair: REBECCA ZORACH, THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO Respondent: CAMMY BROTHERS, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA KARLA MALLETTE, UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN, ANN ARBOR
Lingua Franca in the Mediterranean
During the early modern period, travelers in the Mediterranean attested the existence of a new language specially adapted to the needs of Mediterranean merchants and travelers: the lingua franca. The term franca — a Romance borrowing of an Arabic borrowing of a Greek borrowing of a Latin word — referred to Western Christians, or “Franks.” And the language, a pidgin Italian, allowed members of distinct linguistic, ethnic, and confessional communities to communicate throughout the Mediterranean. In this talk, I will address the emergence and the development of the language between the fourteenth and seventeenth centuries, arguing that the evolution of the
new tongue must be understood against the backdrop of economic, social, and military history. And, like the dragomans, renegades, and corsairs who used the tongue, the lingua franca attests to the uneasy yet fascinating transition from medieval to modern, and the accommodations — both private and social — that this process demanded.

[identity profile] baroness-fiamma.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you used tripadvisor.com, for hotel reviews?

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, no I hadn't gotten that far yet. I'm still debating whether I'm going.

I am considering a new fun project though- cooking my way through the entire Anon. Venetian cookbook as it's written and blogging it. :)

[identity profile] baroness-fiamma.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I have wanted to do same with the Anon. Tuscan. Got a start, but now I am into the Sent Sovi. Made a lamb stew for culinary night. The sauce was egg thickened and my tempering failed and it broke, ugly but still tasty. Now I need to buy a buch of Spanish pottery...warning, shopping danger zone ahead ;-)
http://www.hotpaella.com/Departments/Ceramics/Clay-Cookware/Soup-Pots-and-Dutch-Ovens.aspx

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, those are lovely! Did I tell you about the american market Deruta stuff that I found in TX Maxx and Marshalls over here? I snatched up all I could eek out of the budget (and possibly just a wee bit extra). :)

Oooh, if we both start blogging working through both of the Anon. late medieval Italian manuscripts that would be the coolest!

[identity profile] baroness-fiamma.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Resistance was futile, I bought the pot (cooking, that is).

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] chacounne.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If you do end up going, and do end up taking that first class, or any other that includes information about anything to do wioth kids, pretty, pretty, pretty please share. I've been working on a book about the lives of children /teens all around the world 600AD-1650AD, and,of course the Ithra class, since I was one. Any and all information, leads on information and leads on extant items in museums, is gratefully received. Thanks VERY much.

Hugs, another Heather (Melissa)

Re: WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Would information on child birth and rearing help? I've got a really interesting book on the art and ritual of childbirth in renaissance Italy, and a fabulous book called "how to do it" that covers a very wide range of renaissance health manuals and their advice on procreation. :)

Re: WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] chacounne.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely :) I feel the need for a road trip to an event near you coming on :) Thanks very much :)

Re: WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Definately! We have a guest room in the new house, but haven't been able to get a bed in there yet.

However, we have couches!
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[personal profile] ursula 2010-01-21 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Whether or not you decide to go, you can e-mail the people whose work you're interested in, mention that you saw the abstract, and ask whether they'd be willing to share a preprint. (Also, you should be able to stalk their webpages and see if they've published other work on similar topics.)

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm definately planning on joining this society as well, and I really hope they publish some sort of proceedings.

I'll definately try to track down contact for the authors and see if there's any way to access their research in addition to the conference! I just have to get over my shyness and realize that they'd probably appreciate interest in their work. :)

[identity profile] lapioggia.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that I'm ever one to say No to Venice, but paying off the last trip first does sound liek the responsible thing to do...

Just make sure if you end up looking seriously at some of those flight/hotel deals that the hotel is in venice proper & not Venice-Mestre!

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
They're spread out over 12 locational all over Venice, that's part of the logistal problem.

I'm still debating all the pros and cons.

[identity profile] corbaegirl.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, this is me urging you to be irresponsible. As long as you're not spending the rent, starving your children and/or losing your job to make this trip, do it, even if it means going further into debt. I have never regretted any of the trips I've made, and have always regretted the ones I didn't.

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still debating. This would be awesome, but would it be better to make the next trip to venice separate and be able to focus on indepentant research, contact various curators in advance to make arrangements, etc?

I'm definately going to Venice again. I'm just not sure if now, for this, would be better than going to one of the future research conferences put on by this society, and being under less of a time crunch.

[identity profile] vittoriosa.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
This will be so fabulous if you get to go! I was totally going to apply to this conference but by the time I had a paper topic ready in October, I discovered that the submission deadlines were last May. Alas!

In case travel plans don't work out... the RSA meets every year, and usually within the US or Canada (http://www.rsa.org/meetings/future.php). So while the destination might not be as exotic, the scholarly goodness is just as awesome every year. :-) (And I am applying to next year's conference for sure.)

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd love to go as the research looks amazing and I love Venice.

However, if the research opportunities will still be there I think it might be better to take the time to make the next trip to Venice at least a week (I don't think I could this time) and make arrangements in advance with various curators.

Can I pick your brain as to whether there might be more focus on Italian, or specifically Venetian research this year than other years? That's what's really driving me to push for this year, but looking at last year there seems to still be lots of related presentations.

I'm definately going to be joining the society and looking into whether they publish proceedings like other scientific conferences, Oxford, etc.

[identity profile] vittoriosa.livejournal.com 2010-01-23 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think that given the location this year, there will be a *little* bit more focus on Venice/Italy, but honestly, in renaissance studies there is always a LOT of Italian stuff. Everyone has his or her own area of expertise -- most scholars who work on Italy are always working on Italy, the only difference in this case is that some people might try harder to go because of the location. (On the other hand, plenty of institutions are having to be more restrictive about travel funds for their scholars, so the location may be prohibitive for some participants this year. It's *really* unusual for the RSA to meet outside North America.) But you'll find interesting stuff any year you go. And if what you want in Venice is museums etc, then you can do that on your own anytime.

The RSA doesn't publish all the conference papers -- there are just too many -- but they do put out a journal, Renaissance Quarterly, which is well regarded. Subscription is included with membership.

Hope that helps! :-)

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-24 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm definately planning on getting a membership regardless but I'm starting to lean heavily towards going to the conference another year, and taking another longer and more focused trip to Venice.

I'll always be drawn to Venice and this really sounded like the perfect storm of research opportunities, but I've realized that combining the two just means less time to actually explore the museums and other local resources.

You were extremely helpful, THANK YOU!!

[identity profile] vittoriosa.livejournal.com 2010-01-27 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
You are totally welcome! Feel free to pick my brain anytime. :-) And do let me know which of these conferences you end up going to, as there's always a chance I'll be heading there as well... ;-)

[identity profile] fiofiorina.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
It would indeed be fabulous, if you could attend. Altough I understand your thoughts about "not to", due to monetary reasons (I am still contemplating whether or not to attend the November Colloquium in Firenze "Costume and Dance", for the same reasons)
Venezia is very beautiful, a magical place to me. Therefore I understand the temptation very very well.
The only thing I dare to advise is: Take the desicion you are going to be comfortable with. It doesn't help if you're having a great time in Venezia, and end up eating Spaghetti & fried egg for the rest of the year. On the other hand, if you could manage to snip of little things here and there, you could in a way afford it. But the decision is entirely yours, and all us who are so tempting about speeches, very beautiful Venezia, and no-problem-Frankfurt (it's an easy airport to change planes, altough it's rather big), we don't have to live on a limited budget for the rest of the year (well, I have to, but that's another story)

[identity profile] ayeshadream.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I may just split it up and go to one of the future meetings and make a separate research trip back to Venice.

If you ever decide to come to the US for one of these let me know if you'd like to come for a visit!